1 00:00:14,459 --> 00:00:13,290 spoiler you are not so I'm going today 2 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:14,469 I'm going to talk about the concilium 3 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:15,450 survival 4 00:00:18,590 --> 00:00:17,010 this body ownership and cellular 5 00:00:20,029 --> 00:00:18,600 turnover research because you know I'll 6 00:00:23,630 --> 00:00:20,039 have full bellies will now be talking 7 00:00:25,220 --> 00:00:23,640 about bodily functions so I'm going to 8 00:00:26,390 --> 00:00:25,230 talk about in a different order than the 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:26,400 title is I'm going to talk about body 10 00:00:33,530 --> 00:00:29,730 ownership and cellular turnover which is 11 00:00:35,810 --> 00:00:33,540 a very mainstream topic and it's 12 00:00:36,860 --> 00:00:35,820 published in mainstream journals and 13 00:00:40,010 --> 00:00:36,870 then I'm also going to talk about 14 00:00:44,209 --> 00:00:40,020 survival of consciousness more Edgefield 15 00:00:46,910 --> 00:00:44,219 or non materialist non mainstream for 16 00:00:48,860 --> 00:00:46,920 example if you google scholar search 17 00:00:51,140 --> 00:00:48,870 body ownership you get over 2 million 18 00:00:54,170 --> 00:00:51,150 results survival of consciousness over 1 19 00:00:55,850 --> 00:00:54,180 million but your search body ownership 20 00:00:59,300 --> 00:00:55,860 and survival of consciousness did not 21 00:01:03,319 --> 00:00:59,310 match any articles when Google can't 22 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:03,329 find a thing it doesn't exist so ok 23 00:01:07,429 --> 00:01:04,890 let's start with body ownership there 24 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:07,439 are three major aspects to by two body 25 00:01:13,580 --> 00:01:10,290 ownership a sense of - this body belongs 26 00:01:17,060 --> 00:01:13,590 to me a sense of agency the ability to 27 00:01:19,940 --> 00:01:17,070 initiate and control action and the 28 00:01:23,539 --> 00:01:19,950 sense of self location i beez right here 29 00:01:26,629 --> 00:01:23,549 Here I am in my body and so we're 30 00:01:30,109 --> 00:01:26,639 getting constant continual feedback that 31 00:01:33,709 --> 00:01:30,119 we're in this body there are is all 32 00:01:37,699 --> 00:01:33,719 kinds of ways and so when I see 33 00:01:40,669 --> 00:01:37,709 something when I feel something and then 34 00:01:42,050 --> 00:01:40,679 my experience is that I'm feeling it but 35 00:01:44,779 --> 00:01:42,060 I know it happened to this body that 36 00:01:46,999 --> 00:01:44,789 centers me into this body I am in this 37 00:01:49,279 --> 00:01:47,009 body and there's when I move this body 38 00:01:51,499 --> 00:01:49,289 moves when I want to when I go on a 39 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:51,509 roller coaster this body gets dizzy and 40 00:01:56,629 --> 00:01:53,850 I feel the dizziness so we're getting 41 00:01:59,239 --> 00:01:56,639 this continual in information and 42 00:02:02,359 --> 00:01:59,249 feedback that this is where I am this is 43 00:02:06,019 --> 00:02:02,369 where I am but this can go awry very 44 00:02:09,050 --> 00:02:06,029 easily in a condition called somatic 45 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:09,060 arif Renia people often stroke victims 46 00:02:17,059 --> 00:02:12,770 of localized lesions in the brain will 47 00:02:19,730 --> 00:02:17,069 feel like they don't own the paralyzed 48 00:02:21,949 --> 00:02:19,740 limb and so they'll think that's not my 49 00:02:24,470 --> 00:02:21,959 hand and if your hand is in the visual 50 00:02:29,300 --> 00:02:24,480 field where that hand is they'll mistake 51 00:02:31,430 --> 00:02:29,310 your hand for theirs and it also go 52 00:02:34,900 --> 00:02:31,440 a'right in situations of microgravity 53 00:02:38,030 --> 00:02:34,910 like orbital and parabolic flights in 54 00:02:39,710 --> 00:02:38,040 parabolic flights they the jet climbs 55 00:02:45,140 --> 00:02:39,720 and then it dives and it climbs and it 56 00:02:48,170 --> 00:02:45,150 dives to mimic a weightless situation 57 00:02:50,420 --> 00:02:48,180 and it can it creates what's called the 58 00:02:52,550 --> 00:02:50,430 inversion illusion where you think that 59 00:02:54,250 --> 00:02:52,560 you're upside down or that you're right 60 00:02:57,620 --> 00:02:54,260 set up and the world is upside down and 61 00:02:59,570 --> 00:02:57,630 when they come out of the parabola and 62 00:03:02,210 --> 00:02:59,580 everybody's supposed to get back where 63 00:03:04,970 --> 00:03:02,220 they're supposed to be people go wrong 64 00:03:10,370 --> 00:03:04,980 they go upside down and this can result 65 00:03:13,490 --> 00:03:10,380 in a major accident it's also really 66 00:03:15,350 --> 00:03:13,500 easy to mess with intentionally so 67 00:03:18,199 --> 00:03:15,360 experimentally induced illusions 68 00:03:20,780 --> 00:03:18,209 demonstrate an astonishing malleability 69 00:03:23,449 --> 00:03:20,790 in our idea of body ownership it's 70 00:03:27,350 --> 00:03:23,459 really easy to mess with it using things 71 00:03:29,030 --> 00:03:27,360 literally like smoke and mirrors so the 72 00:03:30,530 --> 00:03:29,040 first we'll talk about two illusions the 73 00:03:32,809 --> 00:03:30,540 first one is called a rubber hand 74 00:03:34,940 --> 00:03:32,819 illusion it was first published in 1998 75 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:34,950 and it's been done hundreds of times in 76 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:37,290 all kinds of different ways but overall 77 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:40,650 this is how it looks so you are assited 78 00:03:46,849 --> 00:03:42,810 the participant is seated at a table and 79 00:03:49,039 --> 00:03:46,859 there's some kind of barrier preventing 80 00:03:52,580 --> 00:03:49,049 you from seeing your arm and then they 81 00:03:56,020 --> 00:03:52,590 put a rubber hand so that what what you 82 00:03:59,199 --> 00:03:56,030 can see is now a rubber hand and then an 83 00:04:01,670 --> 00:03:59,209 experimenter uses a paintbrush and 84 00:04:03,860 --> 00:04:01,680 simultaneously brushes your hand at the 85 00:04:05,539 --> 00:04:03,870 same time as the rubber hand so now what 86 00:04:07,190 --> 00:04:05,549 you can see is the brush on the rubber 87 00:04:09,890 --> 00:04:07,200 hand but what you can feel is the brush 88 00:04:12,710 --> 00:04:09,900 on your own hand and what people report 89 00:04:15,500 --> 00:04:12,720 is during the experiment there were 90 00:04:16,789 --> 00:04:15,510 times when it seemed as if I was feeling 91 00:04:18,259 --> 00:04:16,799 the touch of the paintbrush in the 92 00:04:21,050 --> 00:04:18,269 location where he saw the rubber hand 93 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:21,060 touch it seemed that the touch I felt 94 00:04:24,350 --> 00:04:22,650 was caused by the paintbrush touching 95 00:04:27,409 --> 00:04:24,360 the rubber hand I felt as the rubber 96 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:27,419 hand was mine and they can also have 97 00:04:31,460 --> 00:04:29,610 what's called proprioceptive drift where 98 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:31,470 if they said close your eyes and take 99 00:04:35,029 --> 00:04:32,610 your other hand and put it under the 100 00:04:37,670 --> 00:04:35,039 table where your hand is and that people 101 00:04:40,850 --> 00:04:37,680 drift toward the rubber hand than to 102 00:04:42,140 --> 00:04:40,860 where their actual hand is and you think 103 00:04:44,450 --> 00:04:42,150 oh yeah well that's just a hand 104 00:04:45,890 --> 00:04:44,460 like I wouldn't I couldn't so if your 105 00:04:47,900 --> 00:04:45,900 brain is doing a good job 106 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:47,910 it will mistake the rubber hand for your 107 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:50,370 hand anyway well it but not in my body 108 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:52,730 right oh no totally your whole body too 109 00:04:59,540 --> 00:04:55,410 so in the full body or body swap 110 00:05:02,780 --> 00:04:59,550 illusion is the second one they use 111 00:05:05,420 --> 00:05:02,790 immersive embodied virtual reality where 112 00:05:06,830 --> 00:05:05,430 sensory and motor stimuli occur in 113 00:05:09,140 --> 00:05:06,840 synchrony with the first-person 114 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:09,150 perspective of an avatar using 115 00:05:13,070 --> 00:05:10,650 computer-generated imaging or 116 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:13,080 stereoscopic video so again this has 117 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:14,370 been done hundreds and hundreds of times 118 00:05:20,630 --> 00:05:16,650 in all kinds of different ways so for 119 00:05:24,170 --> 00:05:20,640 example they the virtual reality there's 120 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:24,180 a head mounted display and so the camera 121 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:27,810 is the eyes now so what the camera can 122 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:30,450 see is what you are seeing out of your 123 00:05:36,860 --> 00:05:33,930 eyes but the camera is 6 feet behind you 124 00:05:38,330 --> 00:05:36,870 so then when you see someone it's like 125 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:38,340 with the paintbrush when you see someone 126 00:05:44,930 --> 00:05:42,090 touching that body it's six feet you're 127 00:05:47,450 --> 00:05:44,940 the eyes are six feet behind you so your 128 00:05:50,750 --> 00:05:47,460 virtual body where you think you are is 129 00:05:52,340 --> 00:05:50,760 six feet in front of you and there 130 00:05:54,740 --> 00:05:52,350 there's all kinds of ways to do this it 131 00:05:56,570 --> 00:05:54,750 can do it where you're behind yourself 132 00:05:59,060 --> 00:05:56,580 where you're above yourself looking up 133 00:06:01,610 --> 00:05:59,070 you're above yourself looking down if 134 00:06:03,770 --> 00:06:01,620 the camera is on the experimenters head 135 00:06:05,660 --> 00:06:03,780 and you're both doing paintbrushes your 136 00:06:07,450 --> 00:06:05,670 experience is that you are painting the 137 00:06:10,100 --> 00:06:07,460 paper on your own hand 138 00:06:13,460 --> 00:06:10,110 it's really easy to mess with this so 139 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:13,470 again hundreds of studies and you can 140 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:17,010 feel body swapped in bodies of all kinds 141 00:06:21,530 --> 00:06:18,810 of shapes and sizes and genders and 142 00:06:27,380 --> 00:06:21,540 colors very easily even inanimate 143 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:27,390 objects and animal avatars and then in 144 00:06:32,630 --> 00:06:30,330 this one it's just socks and gloves all 145 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:32,640 you are socks and gloves so this is the 146 00:06:35,780 --> 00:06:34,170 head-mounted display and this is what 147 00:06:37,550 --> 00:06:35,790 you can see here you can see when you 148 00:06:39,860 --> 00:06:37,560 move your hands and when you move your 149 00:06:41,990 --> 00:06:39,870 feet these hands and feet move these 150 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:42,000 gloves and socks move so your brain goes 151 00:06:45,250 --> 00:06:43,410 ok we're over there who are invisible 152 00:06:50,060 --> 00:06:45,260 now ok I got it 153 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:50,070 and even with a mannequin they can do 154 00:06:54,170 --> 00:06:51,330 this so in this 155 00:06:57,470 --> 00:06:54,180 picture these are the cameras and so 156 00:06:59,840 --> 00:06:57,480 what this guy can see in his head 157 00:07:02,150 --> 00:06:59,850 mounted display is like looking down at 158 00:07:03,410 --> 00:07:02,160 this body and so she's gonna touch both 159 00:07:05,570 --> 00:07:03,420 of these things with the paintbrushes 160 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:05,580 and what he's gonna it won't take long 161 00:07:09,950 --> 00:07:08,130 at all he's gonna think well I don't 162 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:09,960 remember taking my shirt off and doing 163 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:12,330 all those sit-ups but okay that's mine 164 00:07:17,810 --> 00:07:15,090 okay that's my body okay that's my body 165 00:07:19,970 --> 00:07:17,820 now okay and they have a subjective 166 00:07:21,830 --> 00:07:19,980 experience of that that's their body and 167 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:21,840 the brain is doing its job it's got 168 00:07:26,150 --> 00:07:23,730 feedback that that's its body and it 169 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:26,160 knows and it's doing a good job and so 170 00:07:32,510 --> 00:07:28,890 there's this subjective experience but 171 00:07:35,090 --> 00:07:32,520 there's also an objective way to 172 00:07:38,450 --> 00:07:35,100 determine this where if you if the 173 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:38,460 virtual body has threat to it you will 174 00:07:43,460 --> 00:07:41,130 experience anxiety and they track this 175 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:43,470 using skin conduction skin conductance 176 00:07:50,150 --> 00:07:47,850 responses so if a knife gets pulled on 177 00:07:54,620 --> 00:07:50,160 that belly you will respond as if a 178 00:07:56,570 --> 00:07:54,630 knife got pulled on your belly so our 179 00:07:58,760 --> 00:07:56,580 sense of body ownership is highly 180 00:08:02,000 --> 00:07:58,770 flexible the mind is only tenuously 181 00:08:04,610 --> 00:08:02,010 tethered to the body so where is it in 182 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:04,620 the body is it which cells is it in all 183 00:08:08,620 --> 00:08:06,090 the cells where is it 184 00:08:11,180 --> 00:08:08,630 so let's talk about cellular turnover 185 00:08:13,610 --> 00:08:11,190 this is a little background on this so 186 00:08:16,670 --> 00:08:13,620 in the late 50s early 60s there was a 187 00:08:20,390 --> 00:08:16,680 lot of above-ground nuclear testing and 188 00:08:22,790 --> 00:08:20,400 it was there was a huge boom in 189 00:08:24,950 --> 00:08:22,800 carbon-14 in the atmosphere and it 190 00:08:27,380 --> 00:08:24,960 quickly got everywhere all over the 191 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:27,390 whole planet and it got incorporated 192 00:08:31,670 --> 00:08:30,210 into the carbon dioxide and then the 193 00:08:32,990 --> 00:08:31,680 plants ate the carbon dioxide and the 194 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:33,000 animals ate the plants and the people 195 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:34,170 ate the plants and the animals and 196 00:08:41,060 --> 00:08:36,810 everybody had carbon-14 in their system 197 00:08:45,770 --> 00:08:41,070 and so this group in Sweden they looked 198 00:08:48,860 --> 00:08:45,780 at pine tree rings right because there 199 00:08:51,260 --> 00:08:48,870 they get every year they're established 200 00:08:53,870 --> 00:08:51,270 so they took the cellulose from the 201 00:08:56,180 --> 00:08:53,880 rings each year and that directly 202 00:08:57,620 --> 00:08:56,190 mimicked what was in the atmosphere at 203 00:09:01,400 --> 00:08:57,630 that time so they could track they could 204 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:01,410 like do a curve of the carbon-14 content 205 00:09:04,970 --> 00:09:03,210 in the atmosphere and then it turns out 206 00:09:08,930 --> 00:09:04,980 that the genomic do 207 00:09:11,180 --> 00:09:08,940 a-also mimics the amount of carbon-14 in 208 00:09:14,540 --> 00:09:11,190 the atmosphere so they use mass 209 00:09:16,939 --> 00:09:14,550 spectroscopy to determine the level of 210 00:09:18,590 --> 00:09:16,949 carbon-14 in different kinds of tissues 211 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:18,600 and then they can find like the birth 212 00:09:22,550 --> 00:09:20,490 date of that tissue because they know 213 00:09:25,519 --> 00:09:22,560 what year that was that the atmosphere 214 00:09:27,889 --> 00:09:25,529 looked like that so these are some 215 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:27,899 things that using this bomb pulse method 216 00:09:31,879 --> 00:09:29,970 have been found so the intestinal 217 00:09:34,759 --> 00:09:31,889 epithelial cells the lining of the 218 00:09:37,030 --> 00:09:34,769 intestine turns over every five days the 219 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:37,040 non epithelial cells in the intestine 220 00:09:43,610 --> 00:09:41,610 16-years cardiac myocytes the muscle 221 00:09:47,990 --> 00:09:43,620 cells in the heart less than 50% 222 00:09:49,879 --> 00:09:48,000 turnover in your whole life the genes 223 00:09:52,490 --> 00:09:49,889 and the cerebellum stopped growing by 224 00:09:55,639 --> 00:09:52,500 two years old but the glial cells which 225 00:09:59,000 --> 00:09:55,649 are the scaffolding of the brain they 226 00:09:59,650 --> 00:09:59,010 turn over every four years skin two to 227 00:10:03,829 --> 00:09:59,660 three weeks 228 00:10:06,110 --> 00:10:03,839 bones ten years skeletal muscles 15 229 00:10:08,329 --> 00:10:06,120 years and your tendons are probably the 230 00:10:10,340 --> 00:10:08,339 age you were when you had your pubescent 231 00:10:13,699 --> 00:10:10,350 growth spurt you grew your tendons and 232 00:10:16,220 --> 00:10:13,709 then they were done the lens of the eye 233 00:10:18,110 --> 00:10:16,230 and dental enamel never never gets 234 00:10:21,379 --> 00:10:18,120 turned over so if we're anywhere that's 235 00:10:25,220 --> 00:10:21,389 where we are and so you might have heard 236 00:10:27,939 --> 00:10:25,230 this the dental enamel is the window to 237 00:10:32,210 --> 00:10:30,500 you might have heard this myth that the 238 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:32,220 body turns over every seven years and 239 00:10:36,139 --> 00:10:34,410 that's nonsense clearly this all it's a 240 00:10:40,970 --> 00:10:36,149 lot of different things happening all 241 00:10:43,850 --> 00:10:40,980 the time so the body is fluctuating but 242 00:10:46,819 --> 00:10:43,860 the body is not all that you think that 243 00:10:49,189 --> 00:10:46,829 it is so human cells in the body number 244 00:10:51,769 --> 00:10:49,199 at thirty trillion and this is pretty 245 00:10:54,769 --> 00:10:51,779 standard because even like when muscle 246 00:10:58,220 --> 00:10:54,779 builds it doesn't make a new cell the 247 00:11:00,590 --> 00:10:58,230 myofibrils inside the muscle cell so 248 00:11:03,980 --> 00:11:00,600 like my bicep probably has just as many 249 00:11:06,379 --> 00:11:03,990 muscle cells as your bicep the cool 250 00:11:07,790 --> 00:11:06,389 thing is so 30 trillion human cells the 251 00:11:11,019 --> 00:11:07,800 cool thing is in your body 252 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:11,029 there are also 30 trillion bacteria 253 00:11:15,530 --> 00:11:13,410 there's just as many of them as there 254 00:11:17,750 --> 00:11:15,540 are of us they're very small so they 255 00:11:18,090 --> 00:11:17,760 don't take up as much space but if you 256 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:18,100 could 257 00:11:22,290 --> 00:11:20,170 like take them out and put them they 258 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:22,300 would weigh about half a pound it's like 259 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:24,610 two sticks of butter of bacteria in your 260 00:11:28,650 --> 00:11:27,130 body and you should thank them because 261 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:28,660 you would be dead without them that we 262 00:11:34,050 --> 00:11:30,970 can't digest our food they educate our 263 00:11:37,350 --> 00:11:34,060 immune system against what like what's 264 00:11:39,780 --> 00:11:37,360 friend and what's fo the this I just 265 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:39,790 think is super fascinating in human 266 00:11:44,370 --> 00:11:41,410 breast milk there's a particular 267 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:44,380 oligosaccharide of sugar in huge amounts 268 00:11:49,439 --> 00:11:47,170 a baby can't use that sugar the gut 269 00:11:50,519 --> 00:11:49,449 flora the bacteria and the babies got 270 00:11:53,850 --> 00:11:50,529 love it 271 00:11:56,220 --> 00:11:53,860 so for eons the mother's milk has been 272 00:11:58,949 --> 00:11:56,230 having this high content of this 273 00:12:01,829 --> 00:11:58,959 oligosaccharide simply to build the gut 274 00:12:04,019 --> 00:12:01,839 flora in the baby so we're you know it's 275 00:12:06,540 --> 00:12:04,029 a symbiotic relationship obviously we 276 00:12:10,259 --> 00:12:06,550 would be dead without them so when you 277 00:12:12,689 --> 00:12:10,269 have live culture probiotics you might 278 00:12:14,910 --> 00:12:12,699 want to do what I do and I say hello 279 00:12:18,079 --> 00:12:14,920 little bugs I call them little bugs and 280 00:12:22,069 --> 00:12:18,089 I say thanks little bugs welcome home 281 00:12:28,889 --> 00:12:22,079 this is where you live now in julie land 282 00:12:31,530 --> 00:12:28,899 so the in the more we because skin turns 283 00:12:35,429 --> 00:12:31,540 over fast so in the morning mark and i 284 00:12:38,249 --> 00:12:35,439 say good morning welcome new cells so 285 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:38,259 the body is fluctuating and only part of 286 00:12:42,569 --> 00:12:40,569 it is you there's this entirely all 287 00:12:44,460 --> 00:12:42,579 these other species and and they're 288 00:12:46,110 --> 00:12:44,470 don't get me started on all the viruses 289 00:12:48,569 --> 00:12:46,120 and mites and there's all kinds of 290 00:12:57,329 --> 00:12:48,579 things growing in you that it's not you 291 00:13:00,300 --> 00:12:57,339 so if you're not so where are you and it 292 00:13:03,300 --> 00:13:00,310 looks like you are both nowhere and 293 00:13:05,790 --> 00:13:03,310 everywhere because research 294 00:13:07,259 --> 00:13:05,800 demonstrating sigh that is telepathy 295 00:13:11,009 --> 00:13:07,269 clairvoyance precognition and 296 00:13:12,389 --> 00:13:11,019 psychokinesis we heard this this paper 297 00:13:16,050 --> 00:13:12,399 has been referenced a couple times at 298 00:13:20,340 --> 00:13:16,060 this conference so in 2018 the APA 299 00:13:21,929 --> 00:13:20,350 published in an APA journal this your 300 00:13:24,110 --> 00:13:21,939 friend and mine thurston professor of 301 00:13:28,079 --> 00:13:24,120 psychology in sweden at south gardenia 302 00:13:29,870 --> 00:13:28,089 in this paper sighted over 1200 and 25 303 00:13:31,820 --> 00:13:29,880 published works and 304 00:13:34,340 --> 00:13:31,830 found that an extensive amount of 305 00:13:36,410 --> 00:13:34,350 quality research exists providing a 306 00:13:38,900 --> 00:13:36,420 cumulative support for the reality of 307 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:38,910 sigh which cannot be readily explained 308 00:13:44,630 --> 00:13:41,810 away by the reality of the studies fraud 309 00:13:46,820 --> 00:13:44,640 sorry the quality of the studies fraud 310 00:13:48,860 --> 00:13:46,830 selective reporting experimental or 311 00:13:52,610 --> 00:13:48,870 analytical and competence or other 312 00:13:55,550 --> 00:13:52,620 frequent criticisms so mind can 313 00:13:57,710 --> 00:13:55,560 transcend space and time so this this 314 00:14:01,430 --> 00:13:57,720 last topic that I wanted to talk about 315 00:14:06,170 --> 00:14:01,440 with survival of consciousness and there 316 00:14:09,020 --> 00:14:06,180 are the three main topics are blinded 317 00:14:11,900 --> 00:14:09,030 mediumship readings near-death 318 00:14:14,450 --> 00:14:11,910 experiences involving brain death and 319 00:14:18,350 --> 00:14:14,460 that have veridical information comes 320 00:14:22,270 --> 00:14:18,360 back and then verifiable stories of 321 00:14:24,860 --> 00:14:22,280 children who remember past lives so 322 00:14:27,170 --> 00:14:24,870 you've heard me talk about blinded 323 00:14:29,930 --> 00:14:27,180 mediumship readings before and you know 324 00:14:33,290 --> 00:14:29,940 I love my p-values but we're you know 325 00:14:36,020 --> 00:14:33,300 we're having a meal here let's let's do 326 00:14:39,710 --> 00:14:36,030 some more kind of fun things so I'm 327 00:14:42,790 --> 00:14:39,720 gonna tell some stories and because of 328 00:14:45,260 --> 00:14:42,800 the blinding of our mediumship research 329 00:14:46,730 --> 00:14:45,270 you know it our protocol we ask the 330 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:46,740 medium what did the person look like 331 00:14:49,850 --> 00:14:48,210 what's their personality how did they 332 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:49,860 die what are their hobbies so there's 333 00:14:55,490 --> 00:14:51,810 not a lot of room for like interesting 334 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:55,500 stories and but I have collected stories 335 00:15:01,010 --> 00:14:57,930 from the mediums on our team over the 336 00:15:04,310 --> 00:15:01,020 years and you know they solve murders 337 00:15:06,020 --> 00:15:04,320 they find bodies they but again it's a 338 00:15:08,330 --> 00:15:06,030 little late hearted we're just having 339 00:15:09,860 --> 00:15:08,340 dinner so I thought I'd do a little bit 340 00:15:12,140 --> 00:15:09,870 I wouldn't talk about murder and suicide 341 00:15:14,180 --> 00:15:12,150 how about that so and I wanted to keep 342 00:15:17,870 --> 00:15:14,190 these story short so so this is my 343 00:15:19,610 --> 00:15:17,880 example of a story from a wind bridge 344 00:15:22,670 --> 00:15:19,620 certified research medium this story is 345 00:15:24,890 --> 00:15:22,680 from Laurel and Jackson and she said one 346 00:15:27,020 --> 00:15:24,900 sitters dad came through repeatedly and 347 00:15:29,210 --> 00:15:27,030 told his daughter to stop all capitals 348 00:15:31,100 --> 00:15:29,220 using the two-in-one shampoo on her 349 00:15:32,930 --> 00:15:31,110 daughter his granddaughter he kept 350 00:15:34,580 --> 00:15:32,940 bringing it up over and over she said 351 00:15:36,590 --> 00:15:34,590 because he was so insistent she stopped 352 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:36,600 using it within a week her daughter's 353 00:15:40,190 --> 00:15:38,730 chronic skin condition which he had had 354 00:15:42,290 --> 00:15:40,200 for over a year and a half and which 355 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:42,300 various doctors had diagnosed as viral 356 00:15:45,260 --> 00:15:43,290 and without a cure 357 00:15:47,330 --> 00:15:45,270 cleared up in a weekend never came back 358 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:47,340 and Laura says I thought this was neat 359 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:48,930 as it showed that the other side can 360 00:15:56,030 --> 00:15:52,530 intervene and helped loved ones okay and 361 00:15:59,180 --> 00:15:56,040 then this is a story from paramedic in 362 00:16:01,130 --> 00:15:59,190 Australia named Frank and so this one is 363 00:16:05,060 --> 00:16:01,140 the story about near-death experience 364 00:16:07,430 --> 00:16:05,070 and so I will read this this is was 365 00:16:09,020 --> 00:16:07,440 posted online and I promised Marc I 366 00:16:12,110 --> 00:16:09,030 wouldn't try and do the Australian 367 00:16:14,540 --> 00:16:12,120 accent so I I won't do it it will be 368 00:16:17,630 --> 00:16:14,550 hard because he says reckon at one point 369 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:17,640 a 49 year old male developed chest pain 370 00:16:22,430 --> 00:16:19,170 and called for an ambulance My partner 371 00:16:23,690 --> 00:16:22,440 and I were the first on scene he had 372 00:16:25,910 --> 00:16:23,700 stopped breathing we assessed him I 373 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:25,920 found that he was in cardiac arrest we 374 00:16:29,750 --> 00:16:27,570 ended up working on the patient for 20 375 00:16:32,450 --> 00:16:29,760 minutes without any change one of this 376 00:16:34,670 --> 00:16:32,460 senior paramedics said okay what do you 377 00:16:36,260 --> 00:16:34,680 guys reckon shall we call it I was 378 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:36,270 working with a new rookie paramedic and 379 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:38,250 said no he can use some more experience 380 00:16:43,130 --> 00:16:41,250 with CPR the senior paramedic laughed 381 00:16:44,810 --> 00:16:43,140 and said hey if you want him to get more 382 00:16:46,430 --> 00:16:44,820 experience there's a mannequin back at 383 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:46,440 the station he's got just as much chance 384 00:16:51,650 --> 00:16:49,770 of resuscitating it as this guy almost 385 00:16:53,510 --> 00:16:51,660 as though the out-of-body person had 386 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:53,520 heard that and decided hey no I don't 387 00:16:56,540 --> 00:16:55,050 want to die yet we had miraculous 388 00:16:59,240 --> 00:16:56,550 spontaneous return of circular 389 00:17:00,860 --> 00:16:59,250 circulation we expedited him to hospital 390 00:17:02,990 --> 00:17:00,870 two days later we found out that he had 391 00:17:05,900 --> 00:17:03,000 been excavated and was neurologically 392 00:17:07,910 --> 00:17:05,910 intact in cardiac ICU no way we think 393 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:07,920 good for him it probably would have been 394 00:17:11,090 --> 00:17:09,570 the last we ever thought about him if it 395 00:17:13,730 --> 00:17:11,100 wasn't for the knock at our station door 396 00:17:15,590 --> 00:17:13,740 one early morning hi Frank the man 397 00:17:17,689 --> 00:17:15,600 looked at me my name is John I believe 398 00:17:19,490 --> 00:17:17,699 we met a couple months ago I look at him 399 00:17:20,930 --> 00:17:19,500 and try to work out where I treated him 400 00:17:23,660 --> 00:17:20,940 and for what I just couldn't place it 401 00:17:25,970 --> 00:17:23,670 the man sees my confusion he says the 402 00:17:27,319 --> 00:17:25,980 last time we met my heart wasn't working 403 00:17:29,540 --> 00:17:27,329 in fact they tell me it had stopped 404 00:17:31,910 --> 00:17:29,550 completely now I know who he is says 405 00:17:33,950 --> 00:17:31,920 Frank I invited him and we get a vitamin 406 00:17:35,690 --> 00:17:33,960 and we get chatting finally he says I 407 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:35,700 want to thank you for giving me an extra 408 00:17:41,570 --> 00:17:38,010 10 minutes of CPR even it was only so 409 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:45,060 sorry I say instantly aware of how close 410 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:46,570 the man was to dying because we were 411 00:17:50,730 --> 00:17:49,090 going to quit I was there he's the man 412 00:17:52,350 --> 00:17:50,740 said you see I saw the whole thing 413 00:17:53,970 --> 00:17:52,360 and I remember Jack saying that he 414 00:17:55,710 --> 00:17:53,980 wanted to call it and you saying your 415 00:17:58,530 --> 00:17:55,720 rookie needed extra work on his CPR 416 00:17:59,760 --> 00:17:58,540 anyway so you may as well keep going the 417 00:18:01,890 --> 00:17:59,770 Frank at this point is shocked and 418 00:18:04,500 --> 00:18:01,900 fascinated at the same time really what 419 00:18:06,420 --> 00:18:04,510 else what else do you remember well I 420 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:06,430 remember the other paramedics suggested 421 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:08,290 that they should be just as much at 422 00:18:11,580 --> 00:18:09,610 likelihood of resuscitating the 423 00:18:13,500 --> 00:18:11,590 mannequin back at the station as me and 424 00:18:15,450 --> 00:18:13,510 it was about then that I realized that 425 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:15,460 this was serious if I wanted to live I 426 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:17,170 was going to have to get back in that 427 00:18:23,130 --> 00:18:19,330 body and the next thing I know I'm in 428 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:23,140 hospital a few days later okay and then 429 00:18:28,230 --> 00:18:27,010 this is my story from about children who 430 00:18:30,030 --> 00:18:28,240 remember past lives and if you're 431 00:18:31,620 --> 00:18:30,040 familiar with Jim Tucker's work you 432 00:18:34,410 --> 00:18:31,630 probably have heard all the amazing 433 00:18:37,230 --> 00:18:34,420 stories that he has on this and so this 434 00:18:39,300 --> 00:18:37,240 is a story from the book from 2013 435 00:18:40,530 --> 00:18:39,310 called return to life and I asked him if 436 00:18:42,870 --> 00:18:40,540 I could use it and I said I was looking 437 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:42,880 for something short and odd and he goes 438 00:18:48,380 --> 00:18:45,730 that one short nod so yeah go ahead so 439 00:18:51,090 --> 00:18:48,390 this this is a story from Jim's book 440 00:18:53,430 --> 00:18:51,100 most of the claims of past lives as 441 00:18:55,860 --> 00:18:53,440 animals are of course unverifiable one 442 00:18:57,330 --> 00:18:55,870 strange case in Thailand of a boy who 443 00:18:59,370 --> 00:18:57,340 claimed to have been a Python in a 444 00:19:01,680 --> 00:18:59,380 previous life seems to be an exception 445 00:19:03,930 --> 00:19:01,690 the boy named allowin claimed he had 446 00:19:06,150 --> 00:19:03,940 been a deer in a past life he said that 447 00:19:09,030 --> 00:19:06,160 after he was killed by a hunter he was 448 00:19:11,190 --> 00:19:09,040 reborn as a snake just before dowon was 449 00:19:12,660 --> 00:19:11,200 conceived his father had eaten snake 450 00:19:14,610 --> 00:19:12,670 meat when it was served to him by an 451 00:19:16,890 --> 00:19:14,620 acquaintance who had killed a Python 452 00:19:18,990 --> 00:19:16,900 after an extended struggle when dala 453 00:19:21,330 --> 00:19:19,000 Wong was three that acquaintance mr. 454 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:21,340 Hugh came to a party at the house next 455 00:19:25,350 --> 00:19:23,770 to Dowling's family the doll along nor 456 00:19:27,300 --> 00:19:25,360 his mother had met him before 457 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:27,310 when doll Owen saw him he became 458 00:19:32,250 --> 00:19:29,530 infuriated and tried to find a hammer or 459 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:32,260 a stick to use to attack him he said mr. 460 00:19:35,700 --> 00:19:33,730 Hugh had killed him when he was a snake 461 00:19:37,860 --> 00:19:35,710 and gave details of how the killing 462 00:19:40,140 --> 00:19:37,870 occurred these were the ones that died 463 00:19:41,820 --> 00:19:40,150 along seemingly these were ones that 464 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:41,830 doll along seemingly had no way of 465 00:19:46,110 --> 00:19:44,290 knowing involving a particular cave and 466 00:19:48,180 --> 00:19:46,120 a fight between a snake and two dogs 467 00:19:49,980 --> 00:19:48,190 followed by a confrontation with the 468 00:19:52,470 --> 00:19:49,990 owner of the dogs who killed the snake 469 00:19:52,980 --> 00:19:52,480 Hugh confirmed that all the details were 470 00:19:55,030 --> 00:19:52,990 correct 471 00:19:57,370 --> 00:19:55,040 Dola wong said that after he was killed 472 00:19:59,020 --> 00:19:57,380 spirit saw his future father and thought 473 00:20:01,030 --> 00:19:59,030 he was kinder than the other men who ate 474 00:20:03,220 --> 00:20:01,040 the snake meat he followed him home and 475 00:20:05,020 --> 00:20:03,230 soon entered his mother's body his 476 00:20:07,030 --> 00:20:05,030 father reported that when Dahl along met 477 00:20:08,620 --> 00:20:07,040 Hugh he touched him on his left shoulder 478 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:08,630 and said he'd been bitten by the snake 479 00:20:13,330 --> 00:20:10,730 there his father said who did indeed 480 00:20:14,070 --> 00:20:13,340 have a scar on that spot from the from a 481 00:20:16,660 --> 00:20:14,080 snakebite 482 00:20:18,460 --> 00:20:16,670 20 years later dalla Wong still believed 483 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:18,470 he had been a snake in his past life he 484 00:20:22,270 --> 00:20:20,450 continued to visit the cave where the 485 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:22,280 snake had been killed he would go there 486 00:20:25,810 --> 00:20:23,930 every couple of months and meditate 487 00:20:28,060 --> 00:20:25,820 during his meditation he obtained 488 00:20:30,190 --> 00:20:28,070 information about using herbs to help 489 00:20:32,020 --> 00:20:30,200 the sick and he was recognized in his 490 00:20:34,750 --> 00:20:32,030 village at that point as a local doctor 491 00:20:37,020 --> 00:20:34,760 I should also add that dalla Wong was 492 00:20:39,730 --> 00:20:37,030 born with a Chi OSIS a skin condition 493 00:20:42,610 --> 00:20:39,740 that caused his body particularly the 494 00:20:44,410 --> 00:20:42,620 lower half to be covered in scales you 495 00:20:46,290 --> 00:20:44,420 might say that made his skin look 496 00:20:52,060 --> 00:20:46,300 snake-like 497 00:20:54,130 --> 00:20:52,070 so that's my stories so not these 498 00:20:57,100 --> 00:20:54,140 particular stories necessarily are not 499 00:21:01,360 --> 00:20:57,110 evidence but these three bodies of 500 00:21:03,190 --> 00:21:01,370 research mediumship near-death 501 00:21:05,500 --> 00:21:03,200 experiences and children who remember 502 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:05,510 past lives demonstrate that mind can 503 00:21:12,430 --> 00:21:09,290 survive the death of the body so what do 504 00:21:14,110 --> 00:21:12,440 we learn today apparently nothing our 505 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:14,120 sense of body ownership is highly 506 00:21:20,230 --> 00:21:17,210 flexible the mind is only tenuously 507 00:21:24,070 --> 00:21:20,240 tethered to the body the body is 508 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:24,080 fluctuating and only partially you mind 509 00:21:30,820 --> 00:21:27,650 can transcend space and time mine can 510 00:21:32,500 --> 00:21:30,830 survive the death of the body so in 511 00:21:34,180 --> 00:21:32,510 conclusion the body is clearly more than 512 00:21:39,730 --> 00:21:34,190 the thing that carries your head around 513 00:21:43,750 --> 00:21:39,740 from conference to conference it is 514 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:43,760 remarkable it is a physical thing in an 515 00:21:48,670 --> 00:21:45,530 intimate symbiotic relationship with 516 00:21:50,380 --> 00:21:48,680 entirely other species that they 517 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:50,390 couldn't live without us and we can live 518 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:52,970 without them and then it also has this 519 00:21:57,340 --> 00:21:54,170 intimate relationship with this 520 00:21:59,560 --> 00:21:57,350 non-local thing we call mind that can 521 00:22:01,570 --> 00:21:59,570 transcend space and time like that's 522 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:01,580 pretty cool for a body to be able to do 523 00:22:08,070 --> 00:22:04,490 those things so but you are not your 524 00:22:10,470 --> 00:22:08,080 body mine is limitless death is not the 525 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:10,480 I hope that gives you some things to 526 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:14,050 think about I want to thank my husband 527 00:22:16,830 --> 00:22:15,250 Mark you guys should thank him too 528 00:22:19,820 --> 00:22:16,840 because when I started this pers agent 529 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:19,830 was so boring and he really really 530 00:22:24,090 --> 00:22:22,330 helped me tighten it up and I want to 531 00:22:26,360 --> 00:22:24,100 thank the program committee and you for